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		<title>By: David Carlton</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Carlton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60 years old, apparently - Wikipedia says it dates to WWII.

I wonder how many of my friends are IN.P&#039;s?  (Where the dot is typically T with a noticeable amount of F mixed in.)  Rather a lot, I suspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60 years old, apparently &#8211; Wikipedia says it dates to WWII.</p>
<p>I wonder how many of my friends are IN.P&#8217;s?  (Where the dot is typically T with a noticeable amount of F mixed in.)  Rather a lot, I suspect.</p>
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		<title>By: plover</title>
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		<dc:creator>plover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I looked at this stuff &#8211; long ago, probably when I was still at Oberlin &#8211; I came out as I, N, and P (&lt;i&gt;extremely&lt;/i&gt; P), and also came out, as you did, in between T and F. At the time, I would have said that I &quot;ought&quot; to be NF, though if I were introduced to these ideas now rather than back then, I suspect I would think I &quot;ought&quot; to be NT. However, I do remember identifying with bits of both.

My impression is that, from a scientific point of view, tests like Meyers/Briggs are pretty much the sort of normative/instrumental type of tool that one would expect to find at the junction between psychology and management practice. In other words, since people are used to the way they themselves think and can be puzzled about how other people&#039;s thought processes work, a framework for thinking about those differences has its obvious uses for an instrumental domain like workplace interactions, but on the other hand neuropsychology has advanced to a point where a schematic such as that used by Meyers/Briggs bears little resemblance to the ways in which features of mental functioning are identified and categorised and probably elides more than it reveals.

The Meyers/Briggs system is what, 30 or 40 years old at this point? Models for things like personality and temperament are now dependent on results in neurophysiology and cognitive science in a way they could not have been a few decades ago. I suppose the change might be described as being analogous to the move in biology from descriptive taxonomy to genetically based taxonomy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I looked at this stuff &ndash; long ago, probably when I was still at Oberlin &ndash; I came out as I, N, and P (<i>extremely</i> P), and also came out, as you did, in between T and F. At the time, I would have said that I &#8220;ought&#8221; to be NF, though if I were introduced to these ideas now rather than back then, I suspect I would think I &#8220;ought&#8221; to be NT. However, I do remember identifying with bits of both.</p>
<p>My impression is that, from a scientific point of view, tests like Meyers/Briggs are pretty much the sort of normative/instrumental type of tool that one would expect to find at the junction between psychology and management practice. In other words, since people are used to the way they themselves think and can be puzzled about how other people&#8217;s thought processes work, a framework for thinking about those differences has its obvious uses for an instrumental domain like workplace interactions, but on the other hand neuropsychology has advanced to a point where a schematic such as that used by Meyers/Briggs bears little resemblance to the ways in which features of mental functioning are identified and categorised and probably elides more than it reveals.</p>
<p>The Meyers/Briggs system is what, 30 or 40 years old at this point? Models for things like personality and temperament are now dependent on results in neurophysiology and cognitive science in a way they could not have been a few decades ago. I suppose the change might be described as being analogous to the move in biology from descriptive taxonomy to genetically based taxonomy.</p>
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